tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post5098802973259382231..comments2024-03-28T22:03:06.328-04:00Comments on Live and Learn-Toss and Turn: A Piece of Local HistoryLive and Learnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13493777474885053903noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-50733999546785518032017-08-25T16:34:11.644-04:002017-08-25T16:34:11.644-04:00Thanks for visiting, Cathy. My kids had to learn c...Thanks for visiting, Cathy. My kids had to learn cursive and struggled some because of poor fine motor skills. we used "Handwriting without Tears" method which was made for their situations. But they both did learn to do cursive and printing and keyboarding. All good skills to have.<br /><br />The weekend weather is supposed to be really nice and I'm looking forward to it. Hope you have a good weekend, also.Live and Learnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13493777474885053903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-68427793645447713992017-08-25T11:55:20.774-04:002017-08-25T11:55:20.774-04:00As promised, I made it back! I love old school hou...As promised, I made it back! I love old school houses. This one looks great! I always thought the phrase, "One nation under God" was always apart of the pledge. I remembering starting my grade school years off with the pledge & the Lord's prayer. I fondly recall the line drawer for the black board, sometimes the teacher would accidentally make the chalk squeak driving the classroom crazy. I taught our kids cursive in our home school years. We used McGuffy readers but I used an Italian handwriting program that supposedly was simpler and easier to read. It was the loopy style we were taught but quite lovely. In fact, I adapted the technique for years in all my correspondences, store lists, check writing, etc. These days I do a combination of Italic and old-school cursive. :) I think print and cursive handwriting should be taught in schools. I believe someone told me they do not do this so much anymore with modern technology flooding the classrooms now. I think computers and smartphones are fabulous but it's dumb-down kids in many ways with poor penmanship and spelling. It's really quite horrible. Thanks for sharing these lovely photos of such a beautiful old school. Have a good weekend! Cathy Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01056276734145310231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-1056014671895903632017-08-16T19:58:59.416-04:002017-08-16T19:58:59.416-04:00I see that the line drawer is still being sold tod...I see that the line drawer is still being sold today, so I guess a lot of us of various ages remember those.Live and Learnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13493777474885053903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-75191868661164962882017-08-16T19:14:47.123-04:002017-08-16T19:14:47.123-04:00I remember those! Very cool traipse through the pa...I remember those! Very cool traipse through the past :o)HBFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10338445335742876196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-13618508350096118842017-08-13T07:08:17.619-04:002017-08-13T07:08:17.619-04:00Oh, the good old days. There were definitely some ...Oh, the good old days. There were definitely some good things about them like the things your mother taught.Live and Learnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13493777474885053903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-56873746207322016262017-08-13T04:46:34.151-04:002017-08-13T04:46:34.151-04:00My mother used that thing to make lines on the boa...My mother used that thing to make lines on the board for writing, and taught grammar, and a host of other things that appear to be sadly neglected today...Nice photos.ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11376645220662546020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-990165681950160672017-08-11T19:10:07.076-04:002017-08-11T19:10:07.076-04:00My kids weren't taught grammar either although...My kids weren't taught grammar either although some teachers did sneak in some here and there when they could. I'm pleased to say that they have at least a decent grasp of it. <br /><br />What's scary about it all is that the younger teachers teaching now did not study it in school either.Live and Learnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13493777474885053903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-15792909545148391462017-08-11T16:58:51.613-04:002017-08-11T16:58:51.613-04:00Grammar isn't taught here either. When my son ...Grammar isn't taught here either. When my son started French back in May, I was telling him about articles and adjectives, etc. and he had a blank look on his face. I know that they learned the parts of speech in elementary school, but they just mention it and then move on and never get back to it, I guess, like so many things these days. Kids nowadays are required to study more and more subjects but they seem to know less and less, IMO. Anyhoo, I just asked him whether he can still read cursive, expecting him to say "of course!" and he said "nope". Mind blown, I guess I just assumed that since they did work on it in elementary school, that he would now have that in his memory banks, but it's like everything, if you don't use it, you lose it!Nathaliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01654610295436446555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-18748438096233523022017-08-10T20:42:56.927-04:002017-08-10T20:42:56.927-04:00What's great about the blog community is the v...What's great about the blog community is the variety of people who bring their experiences and expertise to the conversation. You are better qualified than most of us to understand writing and brain development. Thank's for confirming that it's important with your educated background.Live and Learnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13493777474885053903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-15766674138736819972017-08-10T20:40:06.560-04:002017-08-10T20:40:06.560-04:00My husband and I were talking about all the histor...My husband and I were talking about all the historical documents also. Change is never simple.Live and Learnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13493777474885053903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-82498542231395224852017-08-10T12:36:41.781-04:002017-08-10T12:36:41.781-04:00Argh! I just lost a comment I made! I'll try...Argh! I just lost a comment I made! I'll try to give a condensed version.<br /><br />There is a lot of science behind using cursive and brain development. The more body systems you use when learning a new task (visual, sensory, motor, etc.), the better you will learn it and the more likely you are to remember it. It's important to keep up with the times (computers and so on are definitely an integral part of our world), but I'm not sure the people in charge of education always make the wisest choices for helping kids learn. My kids (the youngest will be in sixth grade this fall) did learn cursive in 3rd grade, which I was pleased about. Unfortunately, in Michigan at least, grammar is not officially taught. <br /><br />One of the things I have noticed when I have volunteered is that when the kids use chromebooks for their writing skills, they become reliant on spellcheck and grammar check (I especially noticed it with the kids who struggled to learn). I am concerned that we are raising a generation of kids who won't learn to problem-solve for themselves but will instead rely on Google or spellcheck or whatever to do their thinking for them. And that's the end of my soapbox!<br /><br />Nathalie, you would probably find that recess time has improved over the years--at least it has in our district. We have a "buddy bench" and if a child needs someone to play with, he or she sits on it and the other kids have been taught to observe this and include them in their play. My daughter was a student leader this past year, and part of her duties involved observing the playground for loners and to approach them and play with them. It was good for her to learn to be more sensitive--a win-win on both sides! <br /><br />I hated gym when I was a kid--again, I think it's gotten better. There is more variety in the activities and I haven't heard about the horrible system where kids are allowed to pick out their teams--since I was a klutz, I was always one of the last ones chosen. In high school, I took 4 years of marching band to get out of my PE credit. :)<br /><br />There is my not-so-condensed comment! I'll try to avoid losing this one!Krisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-47477056393393390762017-08-10T11:57:03.184-04:002017-08-10T11:57:03.184-04:00Teachers are also using their computers/phones and...Teachers are also using their computers/phones and having the images projected onto the screens or walls. It's a whole new world out there ...Krisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-22795044271434355392017-08-10T09:37:01.845-04:002017-08-10T09:37:01.845-04:00I absolutely believe it. Schools don't teach c...I absolutely believe it. Schools don't teach cursive anymore for the most part and if you don't learn how to write it, you cannot read it. It's like reading hieroglyphs, apparently. When I was homeschooling Youngest Son (through 2nd grade) I insisted on teaching him cursive. But he went to a public school in 3rd grade where they didn't teach it and he forgot it. He couldn't read anything in cursive at all! I sent him to a different school for 4-5th grade where they did teach cursive, and so he was able to learn again. This thread is making me think that I need to test him to see if he still can read it! The saddest part is that so many of our historical documents were written in cursive. Those people who don't know how to read this are missing out on so much. It's really sad.Nathaliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01654610295436446555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-10301011063681441542017-08-10T08:52:01.341-04:002017-08-10T08:52:01.341-04:00We only had recess in elementary school. I don'...We only had recess in elementary school. I don't recall having P.E. in elementary school but we did have swimming (they'd bus us to the municipal pool) part of the year so we must have had some other activity such as soccer or something the rest of the year but I can't remember. Once we started middle school there was no more recess (but we had 2-hour lunches through high school during which we had to remain outside once the eating was done) and we had P.E. in a gym (climbing rope, balancing beam, all that jazz, I HATED it!) and things like handball and basketball since we played that indoors in the gym. I don't recall having P.E. outdoors but my middle school was urban (in the center of town, located in very old buildings) and didn't have a P.E. field. It was only once a week.<br /><br />In high school we had P.E. (track, handball, gymnastics, basketball) as a period but only once a week as well. My high school did have a track and some outdoor basketball courts and I think a soccer field.<br /><br />In middle school, my last math teacher used to throw the chalks at us when we got our answers wrong. LOL. I hate math, I wonder why...Nathaliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01654610295436446555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-75290217569321214842017-08-10T07:04:22.906-04:002017-08-10T07:04:22.906-04:00That's an almost unbelievable story. I know th...That's an almost unbelievable story. I know they don't formally teach cursive, but not being able to read it! That just doesn't seem right. I have read studies about how important the act of learning cursive is important for brain development even if the kids don't use it regularly. Somehow, I don't think all of the thumb action is doing the same thing, but I'm no expert. I'm just someone remembering the good ole days. :)Live and Learnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13493777474885053903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-33355597012459627172017-08-10T07:00:21.223-04:002017-08-10T07:00:21.223-04:00A 2 hour recess was a long time of unstructured pl...A 2 hour recess was a long time of unstructured play--especially when it was cold outside. Did you have any kind of PE class? By the time I got to 7th grade, the morning and afternoon recesses were gone, but we had PE.<br /><br />Also, I was in a very poor school district and we didn't get issued any books. Our parents had to buy them all and that was a big financial burden for many including my parents with four kids. We also covered them with brown paper bag covers.<br /><br />I'm going to have to ask around and see how much they use interactive boards around here.Live and Learnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13493777474885053903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-8813188723405146092017-08-10T01:16:53.464-04:002017-08-10T01:16:53.464-04:00This is a great post! I love that I got to travel ...This is a great post! I love that I got to travel and learn with you. Thank you for sharing this!<br />Side note: I was at the Galleria one day not too long ago when a girl (12 ish) asked me if I could read cursive. Her mom had written a list of things for her to look at (Her mom was in another store buying something) and she couldn't read one word. Whoever thought cursive would be a another language?Anne in the kitchenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01533249631969001657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-41200972397255011832017-08-09T22:41:41.676-04:002017-08-09T22:41:41.676-04:00This was a fun visit, thanks for sharing it with u...This was a fun visit, thanks for sharing it with us!<br /><br />In some cases, they don't even have erase boards anymore, sometimes they have those interactive boards, I can't remember what they're called, but the teacher uses a tablet and it projects on the board. My youngest son's elementary school had those at one point.<br /><br />I'm turning 50 this year. We had chalk boards all the way through high school! Our school day, in elementary school, started at 8:30 a.m. and ended at 4:30 p.m. We had a 30 min recess at 10 a.m. and another one at about 2:00 or 2:30 as well! But we had 2 hours for lunch :) It also snowed and was cold, we didn't wear snow suits. We just had boots, pants and winter jackets (whatever our parents could afford and my mom was poor so our jackets and boots were never warm enough) and were expected to run around. I preferred reading and I would always get in trouble because I'd be sitting under the awning reading a book, when the teachers wanted us to be getting exercise. Well, it's not fun when they're MAKING you. At lunchtime, those of us who ate at the school were in the lunchroom for the 30 minutes it took to eat but otherwise we had to be outside for the remaining 90 minutes. I froze my tush and my feet off so much... which is why I will never leave Florida, now, ha. A lot of kids went home for lunch.<br /><br />I remember having chalk eraser duty after school, I had to go beat the erasers against the wall surrounding our school yard. Fun!<br /><br />In France we didn't (don't?) recite any pledge. There isn't one. <br /><br />It's sad to think that kids were segregated by race and that the kids in the black schools got the worst of everything. My books were sometimes tattered too as they were passed on for several years (you could tell because there was a sticker on the front with the names of the past students who had been issued the same book). We would cover them with brown paper at the beginning of the school year to try to protect them as much as possible. <br /><br />It feels like it was so long ago now that I see almost the same setting in museums, lol. Now my son can take his laptop to class and take notes on it or on his phone. Back then no one had computers at home yet and we surely didn't have the internet. I'm not sure if I regret that we didn't or not.Nathaliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01654610295436446555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-53053796057548813582017-08-09T22:11:41.482-04:002017-08-09T22:11:41.482-04:00I think some classrooms still have them, but a lot...I think some classrooms still have them, but a lot of them have dry erase boards. At this school, as well as the big board in the front, there were individual slates at the desks that the kids enjoyed.Live and Learnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13493777474885053903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-34191864027770447772017-08-09T22:03:09.129-04:002017-08-09T22:03:09.129-04:00Oh... the music staff chalk thing brings back memo...Oh... the music staff chalk thing brings back memories! So, you said the kids were fascinated by the chalk board. Does that mean they don't have chalk boards in classrooms anymore?EcoCatLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15704811319510740473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-84483645094668578662017-08-09T21:41:47.532-04:002017-08-09T21:41:47.532-04:00I can't seem to catch up with things enough to...I can't seem to catch up with things enough to do more regular posting, so you haven't missed anything here. I did a brief look to see what the chalk line drawer is called and there are various variations on "wooden chalk line drawing tool." Not a very exotic name, is it?<br /><br />While I do remember the times of recess, I don't remember putting on my coat, etc. for it. Maybe little kids are just oblivious to those things, but I bet the teachers weren't.Live and Learnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13493777474885053903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6315851262843522940.post-92056943783114664142017-08-09T18:54:57.160-04:002017-08-09T18:54:57.160-04:00I thought I was coming late to the party (just got...I thought I was coming late to the party (just got back from camping) but you wrote this today. :) What a fun tour. Yes, I do remember the 5-piece chalk line guide (what is it called, anyway?). I don't remember my recess schedule from elementary school, but I suspect it was similar--I do recall having a short morning and afternoon recess, with a longer lunchtime one. During the winter, I have to think that the 15 minute break was a complete hassle--about the time you would get kids into their snow gear, it would be time for them to take it off again. I am in favor of more recesses, though--the people who make decisions to cut recess aren't doing kids any favors--play is important! The school looks to be beautifully maintained and a fascinating way to learn about history. Thanks for sharing!Krisnoreply@blogger.com